I will tidy up the blog format soon.
The Meeting
Fresh back from an eye-opening weekend of climbing at Malham Cove, this morning I jumped strait into a meeting with Anro and John from d&b audiotechnik.
After the discussion with John, it seems his perception of the projects are far more integrated than I first thought which is a beautiful thing. Although initializing the skype call was difficult at first, it eventually worked and we got strait to business. The meeting was split into two focused sections with a slight push towards the overlapping elements of the two projects.

The notes i took down (which need to be further expanded upon) with some modification
Anros Parts:
- Dynamics in the perception of loudness
- listener fatigue from low crest factor music (over compression?)
- 12dB peak to rms on modern recordings
- 4-5dB crest factor/dynamic range on radio
- loudness wars causing listener fatigue
- tv advertising using the same method to make their adverts much louder
- cut high/low in dance music breakdowns, the drop causing a perceived increase in loudness - this happens in many other genres too - think Pixies - where is my mind?
- ppm6 (bbs design) - brick wall limiters on transmitter for digital output - ppm6 is peak - 8dB above 0dBu - slower decay to allow read of true peaks
- find the really good book on level metering!!!!
- V U Meters - attempt to show perceived level - analogue components go into saturation
- Florian Camerer - a understanding of loudness - broadcast research
- Broadcasters set off a war on over-compression and increasing signal
- Find the British standard for level monitoring systems - see the attached effects on short & long term
- Florians algorithms for measurement of perceived loudness
- Application from broadcast research - application in the live sound arena at a substantial increase in level
- RESOLUTION MAGAZINE - LINEUP MAGAZINE - some history - institute of broadcast sounds
- Resolution is the upmarket studio magazine - like SOS for pros - find the lineup section - loads of info on loudness monitoring is there
- Software loudness measurement - will (hopefully) make over-loud over-compressed music defunct
- Look for broadcast sound lectures
- The effects of psychoacoustics - (have a chat with Peter Lennox intermittently)
- People expect clubs and gigs to be louder than at home/in headphones
- does the perception of the test change at different levels?
- the limiter and attack/release time of the ear - find papers WE NEED THIS!
- Twice as loud is 10dB perceptually - the research is out there. Get it!
- 3dB is roughly twice the wattage in system terms - normally 10dB is 10 times the wattage - MONEY!
- 95dB max is normally fine for a generic theater - RnR is about 105dB - the ears protection mechanism is in effect at that level for sure
- area under curve i.e. long-term crest factor in signals
- military research into the biology of the ears protective mechanism - and the effect of crest factor on the listening protection system - Maybe contact the RAF acoustics corps and see if they can point me towards some research
Simon Parts:
- Where the idea came from - Johns time in the uk techsupport office
- application support - eas - club installs - DJ redline
- jbl eons distorting to hell was "loud according to club owner - environmental differences in venue size and acoustic shape of room may have also had a factor when considering increased harmonic content??? Maybe a little bit of pride on the side of the southampton bar owner?
JBL eons aren't exactly heavy hitters compared to DB C systems... - 10% harmonic distortion is the point where djz and club goers through it was loud enough? Maybe? This is according to a person John spoke to... maybe the research is out there...
- adding harmonic distortion, does it work across genres? is it just DJs? in our experience..
that said, the FFAF engineer and some others were using techniques john mentioned earlier, to do with analogue saturation running the preamps hot and the fader low for increased details - Are the effects of added harmonics purely psychoacoustics?
- Crest factor (again)
- add harmonic distortion for improved bass?
- get example levels of harmonic distortion - see what people think - a quick and dirty listening test
- see if there is a basis for study on this topic
- Check types of distortion and patterns of harmonics... maybe the measurement of change of patterns will mean a randomized pattern choice with a smear time will be the most suitable option
- check out inter-mod distortion too
- sort out sample and send to john
So my ongoing action plan for the next month
- Post up useful related literature
- Finish proposal
- Find accurate way of measuring THD% in a system
- Plum music through that system (mat lab aplet?)
- Get samples to listen to at different
- Go and get 30 samples of data - question based? Web Based? Headphones.
- Experiment with different types of distortion
- Experiment with level differences
- Explore crest factor more deeply
It begins today
One useful paper may be "On the Definition of Total Harmonic Distortion and Its Effect on Measurement Interpretation" by Doron Shmilovitz - although this is not audio-specific